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"Stop pretending about them, to please? To make up for something?" - Reply: do you now begin to understand how utterly narrow-minded and culturally prejudiced your British-centric words seem to those of us who are making a real effort to understand the world.
"Stop pretending about them, to please? To make up for something?" - Reply: do you now begin to understand how utterly narrow-minded and culturally prejudiced your British-centric words seem to those of us who are making a real effort to understand the world.
To conclude, I can understand that you are not trolling but rather are expressing things you genuinely believe. However, I suggest you recognize that there are other viewpoints, and think seriously about what I have posted here before you again start banging your keys to express small-minded ideas that others think are genuinely insulting and reprehensible.
To conclude, I can understand that you are not trolling but rather are expressing things you genuinely believe. However, I suggest you recognize that there are other viewpoints, and think seriously about what I have posted here before you again start banging your keys to express small-minded ideas that others think are genuinely insulting and reprehensible.
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I am assuming that you are willing to learn, so I am taking you at your word that you want to be told what things you wrote that are not true.
"Stop believing that the first Australians have answers!" Reply: I know the first Australians have answers. Their knowledge of the land has enabled their survival for at least 50 thousand years, when ignorant but well clothed and equipped European explorers with metal tools, pack animals, compasses and sextants written log books, etc. perished because of their want of knowledge of the land and its resources (e.g., the Burke and Wills Expedition - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burke_and_Wills_expedition).
"They had NO language written down!" Reply: They didn't need writing, their knowledge was mnemonically recorded and indexed against the landscapes it referenced for sharing and passing down the generations via songs, dances, and ritual maps that were repeated at the song lines of the landscape were traversed in their travels. I do suggest that you read Lynne Kelly's works on the management of orally communicated traditional knowledge. In many of its aspects it is just as 'scientific' as our peer-reviewed academic literature is. To say what you did the way you said it reflects your ignorance of the Aboriginals, not the Aboriginals ignorance of the world.
"No buildings" Reply - not true, Aboriginals were quite capable to build shelters when and where they needed them. Given the harsh nature of the landscape they normally lived in, there were very few areas that could support a year-round population, so they moved to follow seasonal resources so there was no incentive to waste large amounts of time and effort building structures that would only occasionally be inhabited.
"no streets" Reply - not true, Aboriginal tribes constructed and shared mnemonic maps of large areas of the continent - well beyond the areas traversed by any one tribe. At all times they knew where they were in the landscape, the paths to follow in order to get from point A to point B, and where and what resources they needed could be found along the way. This may not fit your narrow image of what constitutes a street, but why would they need to rebuild the perfectly usable landscape to construct 'roads'..
"even no clothes! The missionaries had to provide them with nappy like covers." - Reply: You second sentence is certainly not true. Most of the time the Aboriginals did not want or need clothing (when they did they wore animal skins - i.e., fur coats), the only problem was the blind prudishness of the European missionaries whose sexual hangups were grossed out by the sight of naked genitals. This simply represented the ignorant self-centeredness of the European colonialists' beliefs that they were the pinnacle of all creation.
"No flag until the 1960 s" - Reply: For pity sake! Aboriginals considered themselves to be one with their 'countries' - i.e., the landscape they inhabited. What earthly use would a piece of cloth stuck to a pole be to represent the land that surrounded and nurtured them?
"no government!" - Reply: Totally wrong. Tribes had very strong traditional laws and traditional justice systems to deal with violators with punishments available up to and including the death penalty. These were shared and unified across tribal groups via annual corroborees as described in Lynne Kelly's well informed studies of aboriginal knowledge management (http://www.lynnekelly.com.au/knowledge-and-power-in.../; http://www.lynnekelly.com.au/the-memory-code/). Unfortunately, because Aboriginal governmental traditions were transmitted orally from person to person under carefully controlled circumstances, the European invasion of Australia (and especially the decimation of tribes exacerbated by the interference of small-minded and ethnocentric missionaries) broke the chains of transmission so often and in so many ways that not a lot is now known about the details of pre-colonial Aboriginal culture.
"No bridges, no wheels, no streets" - Reply: So - Aboriginals were not European living in an industrial society. This is only an expression of your narrow British/Eurocentric ignorance of the people and ecology of a different perceptual world than your own.
"no common goals because most didn’t know the others existed" - Reply: Totally wrong. Aboriginal knowledge of their world was widely shared and transmitted over large geographic areas via the annual corroborrees.
"no idea about the size shape or place on the earth!" - Reply shows your total lack of understanding of how Aboriginal cultures understood the world they lived in. NASA's understanding of the planet and astronomy would be totally and utterly useless to anything an Aboriginal person wanted or needed to do.
"Stop pretending about them, to please? To make up for something?" - Reply: do you now begin to understand how utterly narrow-minded and culturally prejudiced your British-centric words seem to those of us who are making a real effort to understand the world.
To conclude, I can understand that you are not trolling but rather are expressing things you genuinely believe. However, I suggest you recognize that there are other viewpoints, and think seriously about what I have posted here before you again start banging your keys to express small-minded ideas that others think are genuinely insulting and reprehensible.