Electoral College = Minority Rule - Revision history

Kirk at 19:31, 22 July 2023

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			'''Question'''- ''What is the largest difference in voter margin possible when the winner of the Electoral College loses the popular vote.''

	'''Answer'''- '''116,999,963''' or 117,000,000 loser vs 37 winner		'''Answer'''- '''116,999,963''' or 117,000,000 loser vs 37 winner

	~~'''Question'''- ''What is the largest difference in voter margin possible when the winner of the Electoral College loses the popular vote.''~~

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Kirk at 15:57, 7 November 2020

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	The answer is rather simple if one looks at the mathematical foundation		The answer is rather simple if one looks at the mathematical foundation
	of the system used to elect our president. (Talk about a bug in the system!		of the system used to elect our president. (Talk about a bug in the system!
	or is it an ~~intention~~ means of keeping the powerful in control?)		or is it an intentional means of keeping the powerful in control?)

	It could be a whole lot worse.		It could be a whole lot worse.
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	time the Constitution was written.		time the Constitution was written.

	2. '''The Constitution does not dictate that Electors are selected'''		2. '''The Constitution does not dictate that Electors are selected'''
	'''by means of the popular vote.''' So in [https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2020-10-01/could-a-few-state-legislatures-choose-the-next-president theory a state could assign one person]		'''by means of the popular vote.'''
			"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct"
			So in [https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2020-10-01/could-a-few-state-legislatures-choose-the-next-president theory a state could assign one person]
	to decide who their Electoral votes will go to or simply		to decide who their Electoral votes will go to or simply
	have such extreme voter suppression that only one person is qualified		have such extreme voter suppression that only one person is qualified

Kirk at 15:36, 7 November 2020

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Kirk at 17:48, 6 November 2020

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	'''Answer'''- '''~~113~~,999,~~959~~''' or ~~114~~,000,000 loser vs 41 winner		'''Answer'''- '''116,999,963''' or 117,000,000 loser vs 37 winner

	'''Question'''- ''What is the largest difference in voter margin possible when the winner of the Electoral College loses the popular vote.''		'''Question'''- ''What is the largest difference in voter margin possible when the winner of the Electoral College loses the popular vote.''
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	The answer is rather simple if one looks at the mathematical foundation		The answer is rather simple if one looks at the mathematical foundation
	of the system used to elect our president.		of the system used to elect our president. (Talk about a bug in the system!
			or is it an intention means of keeping the powerful in control?)

	It could be a whole lot worse.		It could be a whole lot worse.
	'''Is it easier to get the support of 41 people or ~~114~~ million people?		'''Is it easier to get the support of 37 people or 117 million people?
	'''		'''
	The mathematical structure of the Electoral College makes this a reality;		The mathematical structure of the Electoral College makes this a reality;
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	The above scenario is based on the following set of assumptions:		The above scenario is based on the following set of assumptions:
	The winning candidate gets the support of 1 voter from each of the		The winning candidate gets the support of 1 voter from each of the
	41 smallest states. Putting them at ~~282~~ Electoral Votes		37 smallest states, minus 4 of the 3EV states. Putting them at 270
	The losing candidate gets the support of 100% of registered voters		Electoral Votes. The losing candidate gets the support of 100% of registered voters
	from the 10 largest states putting them at 256 Electoral Votes.		from the 10 largest states (4 3EV states) putting them at 256 Electoral Votes.

	Seems outrageous? That is a emotional value judgement, it wouldn't		Seems outrageous? That is a emotional value judgement, it wouldn't
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	If I wanted to game the system; my bedrock policy would be to tax the		If I wanted to game the system; my bedrock policy would be to tax the
	10 largest states and give that money to the 41 smallest states (~~including DC but actually~~ there is enough cushion in the EC to leave the 4 smallest states, like DC, Vermont or Hawaii) ~~(or alternatively you could do the opposite).~~		10 largest states (+4) and give that money to the 37 smallest states (there
	(or alternatively you could do the opposite).		is enough cushion in the EC to leave out the 4 smallest states,
			like DC, Vermont or Hawaii) (or alternatively you could do the opposite).
	But before that, I'd make sure I belonged to the party that controlled the		But before that, I'd make sure I belonged to the party that controlled the
	majority of small states. That party would then get the legislatures of each		majority of small states.That party would then get the legislatures
	state to decide where its Electoral Votes would go rather than the popular vote		of each state to decide where its Electoral Votes would go rather than
	or practice extreme voter suppression. '''If you think about it the Republican party		the popular vote or practice extreme voter suppression. Alternative
	is well on its way to achieving this goal.'''		I could just try to form a coalition of states willing to go along with
			my scheme in hopes it will add up to
			270 EC votes. '''If you think about it, the Republican party is well on its way to achieving this goal.'''

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Kirk at 16:59, 6 November 2020

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	If I wanted to game the system; my bedrock policy would be to tax the		If I wanted to game the system; my bedrock policy would be to tax the
	10 largest states and give that money to the 41 smallest states (including DC)		10 largest states and give that money to the 41 smallest states (including DC but actually there is enough cushion in the EC to leave the 4 smallest states, like DC, Vermont or Hawaii) (or alternatively you could do the opposite).
	(or alternatively you could do the opposite).		(or alternatively you could do the opposite).
	But before that, I'd make sure I belonged to the party that controlled the		But before that, I'd make sure I belonged to the party that controlled the

Kirk at 16:36, 6 November 2020

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	2. '''The Constitution does not dictate that Electors are selected'''		2. '''The Constitution does not dictate that Electors are selected'''
	'''by means of the popular vote.''' So in [https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2020-10-01/could-a-few-state-legislatures-choose-the-next-president theory a state could assign one person] to decide who their Electoral votes will go to or simply		'''by means of the popular vote.''' So in [https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2020-10-01/could-a-few-state-legislatures-choose-the-next-president theory a state could assign one person]
			to decide who their Electoral votes will go to or simply
	have such extreme voter suppression that only one person is qualified		have such extreme voter suppression that only one person is qualified
	to vote.		to vote.

Kirk at 16:31, 6 November 2020

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	2. '''The Constitution does not dictate that Electors are selected'''		2. '''The Constitution does not dictate that Electors are selected'''
	'''by means of the popular vote.''' So in theory a state could assign		'''by means of the popular vote.''' So in [https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2020-10-01/could-a-few-state-legislatures-choose-the-next-president theory a state could assign one person] to decide who their Electoral votes will go to or simply
	one person to decide who their Electoral votes will go to or simply
	have such extreme voter suppression that only one person is qualified		have such extreme voter suppression that only one person is qualified
	to vote.		to vote.

Kirk at 16:29, 6 November 2020

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	Remember:		Remember:
	1. '''The SCOTUS is dominated by "~~Originalist~~" who claim to stick'''		1. '''The SCOTUS is dominated by "Originalists" who claim to stick'''
	'''to the text of the Constitution''' vaguely tempered in some way		'''narrowly to the text of the Constitution''', vaguely tempered in some way
	by their own individual interpretation of the mores during the		by their own individual interpretation of the mores during the
	time the Constitution was written.		time the Constitution was written.

Kirk at 16:27, 6 November 2020

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	who received nearly 4 million more votes than		who received nearly 4 million more votes than
	the other candidate can win by just the narrowest		the other candidate can win by just the narrowest
	in the Electoral College.		of margins in the Electoral College.

	The answer is rather simple if one looks at the mathematical foundation		The answer is rather simple if one looks at the mathematical foundation

Kirk at 16:26, 6 November 2020

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